Recruitment in the Army: force and weakness of a professional army

published on Thursday, January 8, 2009

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Since 1996, the military service was abandoned in France, with the image of Great Britain and the United States, with the profit of a professional army. He was however considered to be preferable to rather qualify this army by the name of “professional” than “of trade”.


With the pleasant authorization of the General (Cr) Henri PARIS for mdmarines.com


It was a question, indeed, of drawing aside a reconciliation with the epithet of mercenary, considered to be pejorative with good reason, joined at the end of soldier of trade. France thus with the army of conscription, practices old two centuries, founded by the requisition issued by the Convention in 1793 and confirmed by the law in 1798. If the system of the conscription appeared more clearly in crisis than before in the years 1980 and 1990, that of the professional army, in particular on the level it recruitment, must surmount many imperfections, letting also fear the development crisis which is felt right now in 2007.

This crisis, perhaps less amplified than that of the late conscription, is occulted by two mailmen. Initially, the French Army is engaged only in external operations which, although multiple, do not require, each time, that a numerical weak mobilization of armed forces, because of their total volume. It forever planned to project more than 95 609 men in any event and until 2007, were engaged in external operation, never more than 63 4en on the whole for the three armies. The command, not without difficulty, can always face. In addition from other problems come forward to as well occupy the first place in the concerns of the people responsible as for the public opinion when it is interested in the armies. For example, a defect in the hold in operational condition of the hardware brings the unavailability of a notable party of the forces. In the second place, the command, in particular that of the army which has in charge the most important recruitment by definition, feels reluctant to alert an public opinion that it was necessary to convince of the cogency of the professionalisation of the armies. However, a considerable fraction of the personnel of command accepted, even preached this professionalisation, or joined there for the majority, for want of anything better. To retract is always difficult and prejudicial, in the same way, just as it is difficult to decry the instrument as one is useful. The practice of the discipline also plays its part and conceals criticism.

The symptoms of a crisis of the recruitment of the professional army require to be examined closely, initially to note them with precision and to determine of it the purpose and the cause, operation preliminary to any search of amendment, even for solution. The preliminary approach, however, passes by a fast recall of the various modes of recruitment of the armies while insisting on their disadvantages and advantages.

Procedures of recruitment of the armies

Immutable data, always valid and checked since there exists a written history the volume of an armed force is function of the demography of a State as well as its economic capacity and technological to equip the armed force recruited with an armament and adequate equipment. This data interferes with the search for a numerical superiority that any command wishes to develop. Very naturally, the occurrence of an armed confrontation forwards a primordial variable in recruitment. Arrive in second position, as parameters influencing the volume and the procedures of recruitment of the armed force, the cultural degree and the political contents as a whole of a State.

The various parameters have an universal value in the sense that their combination produces the same negotiable instrument whatever the State. Thus have been distinguished historically from the well defined phases, communes with the armies of several countries, even of all the countries with the phenomenon of an increasing universalization, in work for several centuries, but accelerated at the 21st century.

The ancient city, in particular Greek and Roman, did not know a standing army. The recruitment of the armed force was carried out according to the need and related to only the citizens, not the slaves. Indeed, the citizen was famous had a purpose to defend, hardware and spiritual. In the contrary case, he was a bad combatant, even a charge. Much more, to force a servile person to fight for a cause which does not relate to it, was regarded in the ancient world as immoral, apart from being against-productive. The citizen-soldier armed himself with his expenses, according thus to his fortune. Richest were thus riders or drove a tank. The others were infantrymen. The designation of the command was entrusted to the election. This concept has importance, because hardly amended, it is found in the recruitment of the National guard created by the French Revolution. The recruitment of this guard was addressed only to citizens paying a tax, with a fixed threshold, a taxable quota. And keeps it national was equipped with its expenses, as he elected his chiefs. The trace of the concept is still found at the 21st century in the majority of the national legislations prescribing that the soldier must be nationality which the armed force concerns. However, very early, as soon as the war ceases being summarized with the defense of the City, the appears.

Antiquity, at 5th and century before Christ, preserve of it the memory thanks to de , recalling the retreat of 80 701 Greek mercenaries to the service of Persians. Marius, in century before , made army of Rome a permanent force, opened to the proletarians and to the volunteers. With him, Rome was on the channel to organize a professional army whose membership of its legions got possibly the citizenship and the possession of a ground in exchange of a time of service amounting per years.

The Middle Ages in Europe knows only professional armies, reduced of number because of the cost and of the complexity of the armaments. An armor asked for months of work the craftsman who carried it out. In Poitiers in 1356, English and French did not align on the whole more than 80 701 combatants, while in 732, the number of the Moslem and frank combatants approached the hundred of thousand. The professional armies recruit professionals, either nationals, or foreigners. , in “the Prince” disadvises the commitment of mercenaries whom he judges of bad soldiers, because stripped of any ideology, driving principal of a high combative spirit.

The intervenes in concomitance with an industrial revolution which allows a massive production of standardized armaments. The setting-up of army of mass and the revolutionary ideology introduce the need for the conscription. However, in modern times, the reappearance of the conscription, known in Antiquity, due to the Prussians, at the century, followed by the Russians and is thus generalized by the French at the century. The Anglo-Saxons were most reticent to adopt the conscription, , as the Americans express it, being solved there only under the empire of an absolute requirement and rejecting it as soon as possible. The most attached to the conscription, at the point to preserve it at the beginning of the 21st century, are those which were the first to found it, the Germans to whom them Prussian had transmitted their tradition and the Russians. They are certainly not chances.

The army of monarchy, of trade, had evil to recruit French mercenaries. It was forced to call upon foreigners for a third party of its payrolls. The conscription, in France, had never been popular. Right from the start, its setting-up is to a very large extent the cause of the Vendean insurrection. In addition, the number of conscripts during the wars of the Revolution and the Empire exceeds the volume of incorporable, because of the capacities of the country to equip its armies correctly. Apart from this aspect, it is impossible to deprive completely the country of its lifeblood too a long time. Exemptions thus should be established. On which criteria? Historically, the requisition of 1793, 902 300 men, founded drawing lots starting from a list understanding one or more classes of of age, less reformed due medical. The number of bad numbers, the “goods for the service”, corresponded to the volume of conscripts necessary to the armies, but with the faculty of replacement, against remuneration of a volunteer. The practice lasted until the introduction of the universal service under République. Thus, by the practice of the replacement remunerated the easy classes had the possibility of escaping the service and did not deprive themselves any. The was instituted right from the start.

Last times of the conscription: a selection in the facts

The universality of the service should have abolished this . It of it was nothing and even quite to the contrary in the last decades century. French demography provided an age group of 900 720 young men not year. The service brought back to nths then with 10 asked for the incorporation of 2 95 609 men a year. The medical reforms, largely counted, as well as the legal exemptions, exempted a hundred thousands of conscripts. The military service was extended at a national service, was carried out apart from the armies, for example within the framework of the co-operation, within firms established abroad or with the profit of country in the process of development or within the national police force with, for the taxable people, an use of auxiliary. The nationals of the easy social classes, always hostile with in an individual capacity with the achievement of the military service, sought the medical exemption or for want of anything better, an assignment privileged in a service not armed, co-operation being snuffed more. On its side, the military institution, by the means of psychiatric medical reforms, did not hesitate to get rid of incorporable considered to be the least interesting, as well because of their low intellectual level as of an instability of character or supposed difficulties of integration social.

With the balance-sheet, it resulted from the procedures of recruitment that the military service was deeply and scandalously uneven. The exemptions benefitted the easy classes mainly, depriving the armies of called particularly useful with their intellectual capacities. However, the same system made it possible the armies not to tie up personnel considered undesirable. Last element, the weakness of the time spent under the armies, ten months, rendered the military service not very profitable. Indeed, the time normally assigned for a valid, individual and collective instruction, is six months, had had to be reduced to have unities, certainly stated operational, but actually badly educated. This is why the palliative of a voluntariate long service had been launched and appeared promising as soon as a valid compensation system was set up.

The new structure of the armies

The passage to the professional army led to an overall reduction of the payrolls carrying those with some 642 020 soldiers, all armed and confused categories. The distribution brings the as from the command of 143 305 soldiers, gendarmerie 64 003, air force 50 700, #8C2A1D 41 370 and services 84 037 The gendarmerie remains under military statute but it is subordinated for employment to the ministry for the Interior. Such an amount of this fact that its organization and its equipment bring to withdraw it fighting forces thus brought back to 2 95 609 soldiers.

For these soldiers, it is necessary to add the civilians employed by the armies, occupying some 60 003 posts of which the half for the army. The deficit, however, records 4.000 vacant posts.

In this unit, the army with its 143 305 men and women, thus represent a little more half of the total of the payrolls.

On a total of 36 650 soldiers of the row, 18 703 belong to the army what leads the aforementioned to have a rate of managing staff of almost 50 %, normalizes close to that of the other armies belonging to industrialized countries and developed. The soldiers all of the row are contractual, the managing staff - officers and warrant officers - belongs to several statutes. Structurally, the disappearance of the conscription primarily touched the whose volume was amputee of more than half of its payrolls. The air force and the #8C2A1D were touched because called, low of number, filled only of auxiliary employment. They thus could be replaced partially by civil employees. As for the , it is on the level of the personnel combatant that the deficit was felt hard. The problem of the guard of air bases and naval, arose with a specific acuity.

Enough often, an impasse was authorized or there was screening: this guard is supposed being strengthened, even realized by reservists, where necessary. Remain to define in advance the moment of this need! Like the procedures of the convocation of the reservists and that of their instruction.

The professionalisation overall inflated the credit line “Remunerations and social contributions”, concerned with bond III, insofar as one maintains a distribution traditional of the appropriations between bond III, “Operation” and V “Capital expenditure”. From now on, although the armies decreased their format considerably, bond III, because of post , enlarged by the balances of the professionals, levels 50 % of the total of the appropriations, underestimated besides at the origin. This swelling, incompressible, is in the beginning, for a strong share, non-observance of the law of programming which followed the suspension of the military service. Indeed, apart from any compression of the military appropriations, it was necessary well to operate transfers of the bond V to bond III. Notwithstanding, in terms of employment, from now on, the armies and in particular the , are presented in the form of a largest provider of employment in France.

Recruitment

The armies, on the whole, seek to provide about 97 034 posts with soldiers with the row a year. The , as for it, is registered for an average of 63 430 posts a year. In 2007, the seeks 97 602 volunteers, being divided into 50 092 soldiers of the row, 1500 warrant officers and some 500 officers. The asked level is staged without qualification with . The level “without qualification with Bac” relates to the soldiers of the row, Bac with the warrant officers and of with the officers.

The rate of selection had reached, at most, taken into account of 3 candidates for a post and then dropped, in spite of the persistence of unemployment. In 2006, this rate of selection was 1,8 per post and in 2007, it must be even weaker. It should be noted that as for the Foreign legion, less than 80 701 men in 2007, the selection reaches 8 candidates for a post. The disparity of explains: the Legion addresses to the whole world and not to only French citizens. Moreover, many French postulate upon an engagement in the Legion, while claiming itself Belgian or Monegasque!

The rate of selection of 1,8 is, moreover, fallacious, because they are an average which touches the whole of the personnel and not the only soldiers of the row poured in the unities directly fighting or those which will reach very quickly a school of warrant officers. It results from this that the selection is insufficient and approaches a post offered for a post requested. As much to say that it becomes null.

The endeavors to be gravitational and offers a qualification starting from several hundreds of possible trades in its bosom. In massive layoff, some 8,2 % of the working population, and precariousness of employment, it do not hesitate with the young people in difficulty of integration or school failure. Nothing made there, the rate of selection remains with the fall. The problem, in addition, of recruitment is to attract and keep the personnel. Many soldiers of the row terminate their contract before one year of service or they should be pushed to make it when they appeared definitively asocial or unpleasing with the military life. The desired intermediate duration of a commitment is 8 years, which is quite long. Indeed, with the age, there is inevitably lowers physical performances and moral wear. But beyond, the volunteers feel reluctant to remain in the rows, in spite of the lack of prospect. Thus the volunteers subscribe of contract, on average, only over 5 years.

It rises from this irrefutable fact a fall of the general level of the recruits. This fall is alarming. The general level of the soldiers of the professional row is on average lower than that of the same category of the army of conscription. However, the complexity of the armaments and the equipment does not cease increasing, without the potential of intellectual control following developed by the volunteers and essential to ensure the correct use of these armaments. The futurology is quite as dark.

A quite dark future

The improvement of the selection can come only from one increase in the requests for commitment like increased development of consumer loyalty of these commitments, which is solved by an additional capacity of attraction. Such a result can be obtained only by one stronger system of balances, or by interesting possibilities of reconversion, the volunteer being returned with the civil life.

However, whatever the systems of reconversion provided for by the armies, six months after their return to the civil life, the volunteers belong at a rate of 50 % to unemployment, rate higher than that of the young French of the same age. That is known and does not incite upon the engagement. The fault? Admittedly, the reconversion is not taken sufficiently into account by the armies and they do not devote enough efforts to it. Can they better do? Certainly, but is blamed the weakness of the initial level of the volunteers. Y to cure come down to take again an initial training relating to the standard of education, inter alia. They are not then six months of individual and collective reserve training which it is a question of implementing, but the resumption of a schooling badly or little exempted by State education. The army of conscription, to a certain extent, met the need, but in proportions which were compatible with its mission.

Under these conditions, indeed, the armed forces appeared a school of the second or the last chance. For purposes to have a valid personnel, the army can compensate as well for the Professional training of the adults as to a school system which supports failures, but can completely replace the formation and the instruction only exemption State education. The cause is then lost. The examination of the social composition of the soldiers of the row of the army is overpowering.

An essential component associates with the weakness of the balances of the soldiers of the row and appears a brake upon their engagement: the availability which is required of the soldier, rightly besides. However, this availability is a powerful obstacle with any family life. Indeed, the soldier of the row is in operation or in garrison, but, by definition, has a wandering existence and the places of garrison are hardly favourable to find a housing and even less one employment for a spouse. That one thinks of the Champagne camps! The weakness of the pay, under these conditions, does not make it possible two to live on it. And there is no netting! How then to hope for a harmonious future for a young volunteer who, with the yarn of the months, will become less young and will refuse with a statute of exception so prejudicial?

One spoke to hold employment in the font, in the firemen… with volunteers at the end of the service like compensation system. The reserves are numerous and, for little that one wants to raise the veil well on the same obstacle: the low initial cultural level of engaged of the . On the job market, one finds better than them.

For the same reasons, the armies American and British encounter the same problems and are forced to support the same consequences. The British army decided to still reduce its format. The French examined the possibility of making some as much: to kill in lower part of 143 305 men and women, even if it means to reduce the missions. The dilemma is political. The American calls upon foreigners and American nationality in exchange of a consequent commitment and a service promises to them on an external territory. In 2007: in Iraq. The crisis is perceptible even abroad. The value of the American army is in question.

Paradox which is not astonishing, the professionalisation runs up against obstacles similar to those met by the army of conscription. The of the conscription would have been acceptable on the condition of being compensates by advantages inherent in the military service, such as systems of valid reconversion, purses, additional points with the entrance examinations in the civil service, including the Universities,… One refused there. The conscription was thus abolished. One refuses with nettings.

For little that unemployment attenuates, the problem of the recruitment of the soldiers of the row in the army will be weighed down.

The crisis of the professionalisation is condemned to deepen. To return to the conscription is hardly popular and is even, electorally vermin. And yet, at the time of the presidential electoral campaign, it was strongly question of a universal civic service with a military component.

A service, whatever it is, to be accepted, requires a serious and equitable netting. On behalf of the equality!

General (Cr) Henri PARIS Chairman of DEMOCRACIES political Club of reflection

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  • This reform one needed it, for a long time it were in sight, since 1970, but certain soldiers preferred to make the ostrich.

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  • I am entirely of the opinion of your opinion my General, being warrant officer as the personnel of the soldiers of the row changed in my section I started has to become more N teacher that a framework of the army, that being already has Saint the person of my promotion had neither a great instruction nor desire for learning the trade from soldier they were there by spite because D unemployment. This being wearied of played with the teacher in class of maternal I left the Army at the end of my disgusted contract but I regret it because for me the Army was my trade of core and passion, I that will change later in the good sense.

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  • It is still to better reduce the payrolls by 30% to maintain a certain selection with recruitment rather than to accept recruits which, obviously, will not have the capacity to be integrated…. Even if it means to re-examine the missions with the fall ..... In any event the modern conflicts do not require any more big battalions but of small formations justified, equipped well and trained.

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  • The army must re-examine its copy during recruitment, because it manages nothing any more but cases , coupled of an obvious hardware lack of means, then the professional army which sadness.

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  • of what one can read here or elsewhere, the army does not need more so many personnel, a reduction of payrolls reasoned will not push has to limit the missions of the army the operational reserve is also a possible and misused solution

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  • the operational reserve at summer put at unemployment until 2009.

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  • more means for the army, an increase in its budget would regulate the problem but considering re-examines all with the fall… (has there that on our premises that one makes Ca…)
     

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  • of agreement with you …
     
    More money
     
     
     

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  • I am always of active and it is true that the young people who arrive are little justify, they are it because they saw light and has to eat! displeased the appropriations its with the fall and in now they lay off poor France!

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  • I am also of active and chairman of category, the young soldiers of all categories of grades (not that soldiers of the row) are not justified than the others, they are neither more nor less than the reflections of youths Frenchwoman, moreover I really think that the lack of sincerity of our POLISHES distorts gives it and wants to make figure instead of qualitative

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  • “The desired intermediate duration of a commitment is 8 years, which is quite long. Indeed, with the age, there is inevitably lowers physical performances and moral wear.”

    To imagine a commitment at 20 years, I dare to hope that with 28 years, our young , non-com, off, will not have to suffer yet from a fall of the physical performances and a moral wear. It would be to despair of all!

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  • The problem of recruitment does not touch only the army. It becomes difficult to find young people motivated, I do not say whom there is not but that they are not numerous. They are interested initially in the advantages and then with work to be made. Society with changed in the field of work: 35 hours, RTT, participation and profit-sharing, 13th month and Christmas bonuses. For do my part I understand our young people, all fall from the sky without having motivation, why choose the complications?

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  • And justify them then? They pay for the others!

    PS: keyboard = not of accents, !

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  • I made my service in 1980 as doctor embarked on an escort ship in Toulon then I “piled up again” 3 at the time during the long lines I exerted the role of for the personnel and Sm, the level was afflicting, I taught the French and a candidate engineering student the maths. “I gathered I the cherries, the cherries which I have are” finally Ba Ba, in maths fractions 1/256 with 1/56 etc. The problem was already same the nullity of state education with a level of exit of the seedy primary. With educational level seedy, poor army, what a waste! ….

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  • Since the 1° world war one knows that none the European countries has the means only of being defended. The solution? European Union! But alas it is not the political blindness of certain parties which will advance the question.

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  • I am of agreement with , but in addition to playing the , it is still necessary to play the part of parents today

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  • That one gives career-advancement opportunities attractive for those which devote oneself for the army and that will be known very quickly. The level of motivation to recruitment will change automatically and rather quickly: you give for your country, your country rewards you! Simple and very effective (if that is checked by the experience feedback of engaged). Whereas today the gate is large open at the conclusion of the first contracts for the majority of engaged even for those which were given for the institution. One should not seek well far the origin from the demotivation. A motivated soldier will always seek to progress in the institution.

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  • You astonish me when you see the way of recruiting, to the all those not knowing very well to read or to write are convened they to propose a commitment in the army to them….

    Serious if of the combatants are from now on there to escape unemployment than for love of the fatherland I do not dare to imagine the mouth of the French Army in the event of war…

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  • Recruitment in the Army: force and weakness of a professional army August 21st, 7048 25:14, by a cuirassier…

    I am warrant officer in the and it is true that the army is badly. I await my end of contract in two years and I am not only! The problem is not so much to the soldiers of the row, it is general. One wanted an army of professionals, one has an army of contractual . The very large majority of the soldiers is in (about 70-80 ). Thus all the soldiers of the row, the majority of under officers and a little officers is in a FIXED-TERM CONTRACT in the army it is fantastic: a premium account of approximately 1000 euros for 5 years and especially the absence of possibility of once cancelling the last probationary period. Of agreement I understand that with the service of the nation one is engaged for one unquestionable duration and that the nation can count on us. But in exchange of what? Of nothing or rather the right to close its mouth! No profession in France will accept that the State flies to him of the premium accounts poured by an international institution, has to know the whereas it touched them before rightly. Remuneration is poor, the hardware “used to the cord” the current Minister for defense before the National Assembly. Soldier has no advantage, not premium account of security like gendarmes or police officers (premium account which I do not call into question for these professions), is mutable (which indisputable to transfer all the 5,7 or 8 years of the soldiers and thus to make even more difficult the family life, the social integration of the soldier. More especially as these removals have a cost for defense: would be necessary to explain to the French the interest. The soldier with his poor pay (it is in ON position is balanced!)cannot make live its wife who should stop her career has each transfer or if not lives the geographical single people, it is enough with the mode). The soldier cannot provide for his “holidays” (permissions). Indeed the degree of contempt and disorganization is such as in regiment of the forces (however species even of the existence of the army) one cannot provide for its permissions and this without operational reason reality. The military institution recently flew me a week of permission (in spite of a report addressed to the chief of police) which I had not been able to take due to preparation S multiples to a departure in and this same departure in as a precursor. In the civilian that will not happen like that.

    Personally I returned by vocation 3 years ago and now I test deep mistook for an institution , autist and scorning.

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  • Recruitment in the Army: force and weakness of a professional army August 22nd, 2018 40:23, by a cuirassier…

    I am warrant officer in the and it is true that the army is badly. I await my end of contract in two years and I am not only!

    The problem is not so much to the soldiers of the row, it is general. One wanted an army of professionals, one has an army of contractual . The very large majority of the soldiers is in (about 70-80 ). Thus all the soldiers of the row, the majority of under officers and a little officers are in FIXED-TERM CONTRACT. However a in the army it is fantastic: a premium account of approximately 1000 euros for 5 years and especially the absence of possibility of once cancelling the last probationary period. Of agreement I understand that with the service of the nation one is engaged for one unquestionable duration and that the nation can count on us. But in exchange of what? Of nothing or rather the right to close its mouth! No profession in France will accept that the State flies to him of the premium accounts poured by an international institution, has to know the whereas it touched them before rightly. Remuneration is poor, the hardware “used to the cord” the current Minister for defense before the National Assembly.

    Soldier has no advantage, not premium account of security like gendarmes or police officers (premium account which I do not call into question for these professions), is mutable (which indisputable to transfer all the 5,7 or 8 years of the soldiers and thus to make even more difficult the family life, the social integration of the soldier?). More especially as these removals have a cost for defense: would be necessary to explain to the French the interest.

    The soldier with his poor pay (it is in ON position is balanced!)cannot make live its wife who should stop her career has each transfer or if not lives the geographical single people, it is enough with the mode). The soldier cannot provide for his “holidays” (permissions). Indeed the degree of contempt and disorganization is such as in regiment of the forces (however species even of the existence of the army) one cannot provide for its permissions and this without operational reason reality. The military institution recently flew me a week of permission (in spite of a report addressed to the chief of police) which I had not been able to take due to preparation S multiples to a departure in and this same departure in as a precursor. In the civilian that will not happen like that.

    Personally I returned by vocation 3 years ago. My level of academic work and my aspirations encouraged me to continue my career while postulating with a contest as an officer, this is why the living conditions of a young warrant officer (who has the same one as men qu it orders from a detail or two) had not appeared to me crippling. In addition I had asked POLISHES the level of remuneration but one had not known to answer me then (quite sour!). Recent events in Afghanistan with before guard of patrol which cannot live (or rather survive) only by counting on the fact that around the neck with “protected” it is nobody there hostile… Merde of the talibans!

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  • I am of agreement with the remarks of and Tango.

    I will add a thing, in addition to the and role of parents, he is necessary to add that of social worker.

    The current army is with the image of our society: general assistantship, ignorance, acculturation.

    To start, the programs of French history, we take note miss, etc

    To have motivated young people, it would still be necessary that our country gives to dream and allows a social rise by the merit.

    I stop there, because I would have to say still much.

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  • Dear Sirs, to have motivated soldiers, one needs a mission which is worth the blow to be even invested to sacrifice itself for the community.

    However, France being a power which does not cease even a its perimeter , its sphere of influence, to be reduced with shagreen, which does it remain to defend? Which interest to be used in #9B392C helmet to count the points (: Bosnia, Lebanon).

    Which interest for “contractual” of in a guerilla Afghan to the neck where each peasant can be transformed into fanatic human bomb with each crossing of path? Pacification? Hold of peace? Humanitarian? It is one crisis period of the motivation which one crosses.

    When the stake becomes again of size and more directly relates to the defense of the ground of the fatherland, the surge of volunteers will set out again with the rise in quantity and quality, with measurement of the danger collectively incurred for civilization to defend.

    The problem, it is that it would seem that the imminent threats planned for the territory are rather style terrorist attacks or large nuclear bang.

    What will be able to make a regiment of parachutists in this case?

    All that summarizes the complexity of the world which currently surrounds us and the difficulty in finding answers adapted.

    I remember to have been used in 1995 for the 1st regiment Engineering as called. I found that likeable, new, instructive (for a student which had never touched a rifle with lead). A good experiment citizen in community.

    But one wondered ourself about the operational interest to involve oneself to make floating bridges on the Rhine? I am sure that the will never be useful nowhere safe in the event of natural catastrophe (earthquake, etc) in first urgency: they are .

    I also remember to have spent the hours and the hours in standard patrol Vigipirate in station of Strasbourg. What a trouble!

    What always challenged me, it is the contempt displayed by some engaged which discussed us of less than anything, of temporary overall inapt. Whereas the executives of active in this type of regiments at the time, there were not more “officials”! On the other hand, I could, after having gained the grade of Sergeant, to tie more direct relations and between quality and some of the executives and section heads which took their mission in core: formation of called for the case (improbable then) where the nation would have one need day for them. Thanks to the military service, I could control the handling of some weapons of war (I even became monitor of shooting). Most underprivileged massively could pass allowed them or a social diversity was made in manner good child overall. Everyone was held to work in team, to make daily sport, etc But too expensive, too useless operationally.

    And the army (or rather policies?) decided to do without its considered soldiers of operetta not operational.

    It gave up its mission of sensitizing of the citizens to national defense.

    Now, it should find young men ready to make sacrifices for wages not terrible, fuzzy missions and which tend to become fatal lately.

    Go, one will find a solution well
     

    With Russia which starts to exploit gates of Europe to the warlike climbing with NATO, content of anti-missile shield the USA, the voltage gradually will go up here and the mission of the professional army will become again more concrete, more important and more mobilizing for average Frenchman which is for the moment only by its purchasing power.

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  • Recruitment in the Army: force and weakness of a professional army August 27th, 2505 53:15, by DIDIER FORMER INFANTRYMAN

    ONLY THE INFANTRYMAN HOLDS THE GROUND: HOW MUCH DO THERE REMAIN TO US INFANTRYMEN? HOW MUCH THEATERS PER YEARS (3 X IS)? Can it CREATE a SECTION OF FUNCTIONING WITH PERSONNEL Of ANOTHER WEAPON (OR SEVERAL) WITH a CAMP OF 3 WEEKLY WAGES COHESION? THE MODERN INFANTRYMAN USES A SOPHISTICAL HARDWARE WHICH SE DOES NOT CONTROL IN 15 DAYS: It IS a SPECIALIST! AND THEM

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  • It is true that today the army seems more not to attract crowd. I am not certain that the abandonment of the conscription was if good thing, I were used as called for the 4th I were Master of dog into 91 there and the memory that I guard am that of a fantastic experiment, rich or poor everyone on the same level everyone under the same flag, we were for the same thing to serve our country for nths (that it is wanted it or not) obliged in spite of us has a certain discipline thus creating a certain unity and team spirit. It is some share an important den that the young people do not have today any more.

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  • I think, with the politicians who filled their crucible, that they know that to simply speak and nothing to make they spends of fortune has right for meetings on the left has to discuss what?. me I tell who am necessary a war for advance the world and the economy. (if I am not my site of censure no freedom of thinking has)

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  • My general and all the senior officers who in term of reconversion recover your six month old check of rough processing, think that you need some with the sights of your retirement pensions. Whereas we are at the thank you of one of your signatures to obtain a small training course or zero reconversion at the end of 28 years of service. The reconversion is badly because the money and the means which are devoted there are diverted to finance yours. Stop with your reconversion, your articles 5,6,7 and there will be one can to better make more.

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  • Alas still a general who does not know what it speaks! . Our army is not a professional army and the term professional army should rather be replaced by precarious army or provisional army. To obtain an effectiveness one needs, in others, a motivation. However how to be justified when that no, or almost, career-advancement opportunity exists for the volunteer!. The important thing is not the standard of education, but the motivation and the performance. Such an amount of worse for the spelling error… if the grenade is launched in the hole!. Still would be necessary it to have grenades of exercise… what is not always the case! . Admittedly, we have the practice and we passed slogan mission = average to that of always more with always less!. It is not rare to make a regimental exercise even international with… 1 helicopter and still happy exercise, even if the helicopter in question were not absolutely studied for a military use!!!. It should be said that our is not able to make produce a helix then you think of causing production of a lance grenade worthy of this name…! On the other hand to build a gate aircraft, without aircraft or almost, a nuclear submarine “line ” at ransom price not of problem. The result of this irrefutable fact are registered ultimately on a plate engraved at the bottom of a barracks dilapidated of Castrate… in the general indifference of our chiefs undoubtedly dreaming of the good old day of the Path of the Ladies… which sadness!.

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  • old of the citadel, my son is with … the formation among hen robbers skims and the companies of infantries seems to me rather justified… they are professional truths… the individual equipment is not with the height… lattice bent for intendant or procession… version'' 14-18 “, , straight bag to throw good. all these young people are equipped with the” small corporal " except that sometimes one forces to them to make the war in regulation uniform. when cat-like.

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  • Recruitment in the Army: force and weakness of a professional army September 7th, 2988 34:46, by called class 1977

    with yes with the fact; is C for soon the cat-like system? the years pass but nothing however changes the soldier equipped better was to be born thanks to the new economies made following the various reforms since 1996; but it is true that our new line definitely more expensive DISSUASION is even more expensive and who as that of the Thirties will not serve the GENERAL ones DARE the DEBATE NEAR OUR POLITICS the THREAT CHANGES ALWAYS DO NOT BE LATE ON to conclude more for our equipment and protection of our young soldiers who go to the sacrifice and less for the financial drain that L atom represents

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  • even the reservists buy their , if not they would not have large thing.

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